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1 (1m 18s):
Welcome to today's podcast. I have been so excited about this one. I've been wanting to connect with Robert for years. And a few weeks ago, a few days ago, I got a friend request from someone that looked exactly like Robert and I clicked on it. And I saw that they were using all of his pictures. They, as soon as I accepted the friend request out of curiosity, they started messaging me and speaking in really broken English. And I realized, this is not Robert. So I messaged you Robert. And I said, just so you know, someone is using your profile. They're using your profile pictures, they're an imposter. And so I thought it was kind of cool how Robert and I came together for this interview because when we started talking, one thing led to another and I asked him to be on this podcast.

1 (2m 5s):
So imposter an imposter brought Robert and I together. And Robert Jean Smith is an international speaker teacher and leading expert in neuroplasticity. He started his exploration into how the human brain works when he was just 15 years old. And his journey has led him through countless theories, modalities, therapies, and techniques for effective transformation. Robert provides the largest library of free educational videos on healing, the mind and body on YouTube through his channel. Robert Jean, you tactics, faster EFT training. Robert has a long list of features to his credit, including a major appearance in the feature length documentary E motion and multiple guest appearances on TV programs, podcasts and radio shows his resume includes keynote presentations at hip, no New York Hypnos summit, worldwide and hypno thoughts, Las Vegas, among many other major conferences on emotional wellness across the world.

1 (3m 9s):
You tactics faster. EFT is a powerful healing system. He developed through years of research, experimenting and practice. Robert teaches people around the world how to empower themselves, to create the life they desire by showing them his life changing method of rewiring their brain so they can achieve real transformation. His compassion and dedication have driven him to expand his own knowledge and skills to reach across the world. And Robert, I'm so grateful to have you here today. I have been wanting to connect with you for years, welcome to the show.

2 (3m 43s):
Well, how exciting is that? Yes, it is interesting how we come together. And of course, yes, this you're not the first person to have written me during that week. Many people are using my amazing phase to try to get money from innocent women and maybe men too. We don't know, but you know, it's like, it's an endless shutting down stuff, but the most amazing thing is is that you and I have now connected and we shall learn something together.

1 (4m 13s):
Yes, I'm so grateful. So will you tell me for a person, because I imagine people listening might be either brand new to EFT or perhaps they are skeptics they've used EFT a little bit and they didn't really feel anything or know what was working. So how would you explain what you do to someone who's brand new to your work?

2 (4m 33s):
Okay. Well, first of all, my work is way beyond EFT. EFT is model of thinking is light years behind what you're going to learn. Get that picks faster of T EFT is a energy based model and a tapping based model. And what I teach is a mind based model is basically, and we use cycle century processes and or techniques to help diffraction eight, which is the opposite opposite of fractionation. The mind. That means a simple neuroplastic way to update memories. And so, although I do use tapping, but a majority of my training is about how your brain actually works and how to create shifts.

2 (5m 18s):
So again, the EFT model is a little bit different and if anybody says, Hey, you should try faster up to you. They said, no, thank you. I've already tried EFT. And it didn't work for me. And the problem is, is because of the setup. Now, of course, what I teach is about how the mind works, neuroplasticity, how stress and how your, your, your mind is. We have a limbic system and we have the information on the cord of the C's and today's problems are merely recycled past experiences. And so, you know, you see behind me, we've got a bunch of monkeys.

2 (5m 57s):
And What I say that everyone's a trans monkey, which means monkey, see monkey do. And when you have a problem, you're actually in a trance. And so what we're doing in my system is we're actually breaking or re redesigning the trances in which we naturally go into, which, you know, it kind of reminds me of Milton Erickson and Richard Bandler had sent a couple of guys down to see what Milton's doing. And when they came back, they couldn't remember anything that happened. So Richard decided to do it himself, but he was very smart because what he did, he put himself in a trance before he got to Milton Erickson. So he couldn't put him in a trance, therefore he could remember what happened.

2 (6m 42s):
And so when we understand the power of the mind and that we're actually always in a trance and again, the quality of our life or the quality of the monkey's life is determined by the information that the limbic brain and which also includes the core disease. We'll start replicating in our life today. So this is how and why I do what I do. It's very simple in the most amazing thing, you know, we got, you know, we got instant Oxys, we got covert languaging such as the Milton Erickson style. And what I do is so fast, so clean and so normal that most people don't even realize that we're going in and out of our good and bad trances to update the bad ones, to turn them into good ones.

2 (7m 31s):
So that's what I do really,

1 (7m 34s):
That I'm, I'm listening with the ears of a person who is hearing this for the first time in my mind, is, is going a million different directions. At one point you said something about updating memories. And I feel like that could make people think, what does that mean? Are you going to erase my memory? Are you going to change my memory? Will you talk to me a little bit more about what that means?

2 (7m 55s):
Yeah. You know, that's the, one of the biggest things, you know, you know, you're a hypnotist and of course, some of the things we get from clients, you're not going to make me quack like a duck, or you're not gonna do this or do that. Of course, when we put them in trance and we take them out, they say, well, I don't think I was in transplant. Cause I heard everything you said, well, the deal is memories. Have the brain has a natural survival system, which means memories are always updated. Sometimes you update them to the worst and sometimes you update them for the best. It was kind of remind me, I was in Las Vegas and I was invited to a birthday party and it was Stephanie's 60th birthday party. And this tall German guy was there and he's, he goes, you know, introduce himself.

2 (8m 39s):
And he says, what are you doing? I said, I'm a, I'm a behavioral engineer, a neuroplastic. And I help people change unpleasant memories. He goes, you can't change memories. I said, well, I can, you can't. And then later on, we're eating our dinner. And after the dinner, he said, he started telling me about an event when he was 15 years old in which he saw somebody's head capitated from riding a motorcycle. And I said, well, Oh, that's interesting. Tell me about in your mind, as you recall this event, how do you internally represent this? And he goes, well, you know, I see me, I see it happen in front of me. So I said, so in your mind, you're actually watching it.

2 (9m 19s):
Like you're a fly down the wall. And he said, yes. I said, now, as you recall, this is it in, is it called? Is it far away? Is it in color? Is it in black and white? He says, it's kind of a gray memory. And then was it at night? He said, no, it was in mid day. I said, I don't know if you actually realize this, but your memory has already started to change and you didn't even know it because first of all, you're looking at me. You're not watching you look at me. So your brain has already started making some adjustments. And the image is okay, actually, grayish, which you said it was in full daylight. So it obviously would have color. Now, most people don't realize that we do.

2 (9m 60s):
Our brain has a natural system to update itself. And if you don't know how it works, you can actually, and people do it all the time. They'll take a good one memory and make it bad and make a bad memory, even worse by merely updating itself. And you know, it's very simple how it works, but most people don't realize that it happens all the time. You know, it's like there was a, a restaurant that died loved in Greece, which I found it by accident. And it's you've paid 13, 13, 80 Euro was about 15 us bucks. All the fresh fish. You could eat fresh peeled potatoes, the most amazing salads and all the wine you can drink.

2 (10m 43s):
So every seminar when I do seminars are in Greece, which about twice a year. And yeah, I would take all my friends there. We'd have big Monday night dinner together. And we had just such a beautiful time. I tell everybody how I love this restaurant. I have a good memory, but one day after many events, I go there restaurant during the day, I've been my normal everyday civilian clothes not dressed up like a professional. And I walk in and there's only one table. Vailable four seats, no reserve sign. I have a seat. The rest of the place is full. Okay. So I'm sitting there and I'm ready to eat. I'm hungry. So the whiter wakes up and I've got my, what I want says, you can't sit here.

2 (11m 28s):
I said, I'm hungry. This is my restaurant. He goes, you can't sit here, but see those two old ladies over there, when they're finish eating, you can have their seat. And I looked at that, I'm going to go, they're eating awful slow. I'm hungry right now. So then he walks away and I'm sitting there and I'm going in my mind. I'm thinking, this is my restaurant. I love this. I'm hungry right now. And of course I'm from America. And of course service is King. You know, you're the, you're the you're there. They're going, gonna here to serve you. Matter of fact, in America, you know, you go there and they give you food and immediately, you know, chips, this it's whatever, but I'm getting really angry. So I storm out and I said, I'll never go this break in restaurant again.

2 (12m 11s):
So then I tell my friend, who's the host of the seminar. I said, can you,

0 (12m 16s):
They did. They kicked me out. They wouldn't let me eat them.

2 (12m 20s):
I'm never going there again. And she says, hold on a minute. So she calls him up. She says, we're going down there. So we go down there and the owner of the restaurant, he comes and he gives me a hug. He said, Robert, we're so sorry. You know, we have people who come from different countries. He says sometimes a single person instead of four table. And they will take it up the whole day. And our money is turning over as not somebody sitting there all day. And so, you know, like I said, he gave me a hug. He said, dinner's on us. A matter of fact, every time I'd go there, dinners on us. All right. So now it was my best restaurant in the world.

2 (13m 0s):
And then it became the worst restaurant in the world. Never gonna step through there. But if I would have never, Christina would have never talked to me and never went back and meet this guy. This good memory would be a bad memory, never to darken the doors again, but it was updated. The good memory was updated to worst memory. And then it turned back to good memory. Now, by the way, there's a little piece in there that I didn't address. That still was a lingering thought, but this is how the brain actually works. It has, and the memories are not designed to be accurate. It's designed for survival. And that's why some people make memories worse.

2 (13m 41s):
Sometimes they would take a good memory and turn it bad or a bad memory, turn a good if you know what you're doing. And so this is what I understand.

0 (13m 51s):
I love this. So when you, when you reconsolidate, you update these memories, can you tell, talk me through, or maybe even walk me through what that looks like? Okay.

2 (14m 2s):
Well usually, you know, we talk about, you know, what fractionation is, you're, you're a hypnotist and you, and you've been taught. I think it was an element. And, but here's, here's the natural way that the brain works. We learn by witnessing and experiencing. So we learn infractions, like, for example, you know, you see somebody, you know, in a car driving by watching them drive, you're learning a little pieces, you know, like, okay, you can move with a car. All right. And then when you get in the car, you have to figure out which way to turn the key. All right. You got to figure out how to apply the brake and pry the gas, all of these, a little fractions, right after you put, act in the brain has this capacity to put them all together.

2 (14m 43s):
And then today, when you and I go out to the car, we don't go back and remember how to do this or that we just jump in and go, it's now it's one process. So, you know, what hypnotists will do is they will guide your mind into a transient by wide, my idea of trans and or hypnosis. It's a very simple definition. It's the mind's ability to imagine and to feel as if it's real now. So that's what hitmen does do. They guide the imagination and their body follows. So what that is that guide them into trance. And then they pull them back up to consciousness. And then when they take them back in naturally, they'll go deeper and they keep doing it over and over again. Now you're fully deep in a trance, but today when we're in our normal trances, which by the way, a good book I had written read was monsters and magical sticks.

2 (15m 32s):
There's no such thing as hypnosis. And basically it says that we're always in a trance and the art as a hypnotist or as a neuroplastic, is what we want to defrag or flatten out the transits. That means change them. And it's very simple. People do it all the time. And so what you do is the act of visiting a memory and what determines the outcome of the memory is why you visit Lino. Like say, you're setting here, you try apply for a job and they reject you and then you're feeling rejected and you go, but why do I feel so rejected? And then you remember your first boyfriend rejected you and your father and your mother rejected you.

2 (16m 15s):
So now you're taking these emotions and now you're adding it to the past emotions. That's how we make memories worse than the past. So in order to update a memory, one of the things is we go into the memory and then we come out and then we find something good. And then when we visit the memory, we then start interjecting a new neurological experience, such as laughter, feeling good. And then by eight, by doing this over and over again, you can address all the cortices, which is visual cortex, auditory, kinesthetic, motor taste, and smell. And as you update each cortex, the memory is now being updated and rewritten.

2 (16m 57s):
And the good thing is, is I can do it very fast. I mean,

1 (17m 3s):
When I was growing up, my parents divorced when I was about 12 and I was in therapy for years and talk therapy. And then when I went through my divorce, I just kind of thought, that's what you do. And I went back into talk therapy, and I remember just driving to that appointment, kind of getting in that negative frame of mind because it's like, okay, this is what I talk about my problems. And every time I went up there, you know, now that I understand that this is how the brain works and that we're always changing memories. I realize every time I made it's like I was almost making it worse and worse, feeling more and more broken, more and more discouraged, more and more like, I'm never going to figure this out. So I love that you can take the natural processes that happen in the brain and reverse engineer them to give people freedom and peace.

1 (17m 49s):
So quickly at the end of hypnosis here just about a month ago, I was sitting outside waiting to catch my Uber home. And my friend art came out and he said, I was in Robert's class. And he said, I'm not afraid of water anymore. And the day before we had all been at the pool and someone said, Oh, you're here. And they were all clapping. And I didn't understand. And he said, he, he wiped out my fear of water and just a few minutes. And I thought for one thing, I was incredibly happy for him as my friend. And I was really jealous because I've been afraid of water since my childhood as well. And I've worked to overcome it. And I've known if I just reach out to someone we'll get there, but I love, I love that you have these tools.

1 (18m 33s):
Can you, a lot of people might be watching this on YouTube. If not, I highly recommend coming and looking at the visual. Can you show us maybe like for someone who's watching and we're here in the context of imposter syndrome, people who are afraid to get started, they have this fear of making videos or this fear of working with clients and starting to use the tools they've learned or this perfectionism. Is there something that they could utilize maybe inside your material on YouTube or a training that you have to help them release that fear and that, that scary feeling of getting ready to level up in your life?

2 (19m 11s):
Yeah, well, that's, that's a very common program and it's oftentimes emotionally conditioned throughout our life. You know, you know, a common thing I hear, you know, said, well, you know, you come home, you have your mom home, emotional, crazy environment, but you can't take this environment to school or you'll get in trouble or you'll have more problems. So oftentimes we have this internal self guilt, self blame. We have the dirty secret. We don't want anybody to know we've had the events that occurred to us. And so we try to tuck it away and, and put it away. We have events where, you know, of course, as you're a professional, you know, being out there to help people, one will generate more revenue in your pocket and you'll, it'll definitely help improve your life.

2 (20m 1s):
But oftentimes we don't because we've had shame and humiliation at school and being noticed, I mean, looked at so the brain keeps recycling it. And so one of the most important things like I did with art, like I do with everyone, the brain has its resources to manifest today's problem as, and we think it's a new problem today, but we have repeatedly the pattern. I always call the unconscious, or we call it the unconscious, the intelligent idiot, basically it captures memories and experiences organize it, and then starts replicating throughout our life at the right triggered moment.

2 (20m 42s):
And so I have a process called the art of change, aim, release, and transform, which basically gives us a structure. Why, where, when and how, and we go change those in immediately, you're acting for personal power. So again, the, the structure is one you're not broken and you're doing a great job. Your limbic system is using the information on the core disease and manifesting the fear of stepping out or stepping forward. You know, the woman who said, well, you know, I can't put myself out there. I can't make more money. I can't do this. I can't do that. And come to find out, the reason is, is that she was born with a defect is called beauty and intelligence.

2 (21m 27s):
And her mom said, stop out, shining your sister. You're hurting her feelings. And by the way, you're making your brothers feel dumb. So stop being so smart. So this is an emotional, what we call it, an emotional imprint I value system learned from our world. And from this value system, we operate autonomically. That means we operate. We call it an autonomic trans immediately go into the trans you do what you supposed to do. Then later on you beat your self up because you've been doing it. And that's because you've been emotionally conditioned and programmed by your past. So the way to do this is actually identify them.

4 (22m 4s):
The memories then change the memories. It's that simple, but

2 (22m 10s):
How to change a memories is a skill. Every modality must learn. And if you know the skill and it's so easy, I can take a phone app and destroy a rate memory and 12 minutes. So, which is more powerful than the rape or a phone app. And the phone app is a fart app called and fart with a fart. I totally just, the sound of a fart, totally destroyed a right

4 (22m 36s):
Memory and everything else you have out.

2 (22m 39s):
It's not my app. It's, it's free app on, on Apple, but I didn't come up with it, but it's very effective. And so, you know, the brain has its interesting ways. You know, what a joke is, you know, a joke is you're following the story and the punchline takes you somewhere else. Well, that's, that's exactly what we're doing is when you take a seriousness of a problem, which is a trance and you interject anything, you can update and change

4 (23m 6s):
The trance of the problem.

2 (23m 8s):
And I discovered it by accident. Actually, I was in a novice state group here in Oklahoma city. It's like a big, I call it the Wu convention. You know, they, you know, their tail rate readers and channelers and rock sellers and all this stuff, which I find them very interesting and entertaining, but I was presenting to them and I present brought somebody up with a horrible fear. And then less than 20 minutes, the fear has gone. And I said, Hey, I'm doing sessions the next two days. So I'm doing two hour sessions. And this one lady is in her seventies. She comes and she says, I only got one problem sunny. So I gave the second hour to my friend. And of course I said, what's the problem. She goes, well, I can't have an orgasm, but hear any sounds in that house.

2 (23m 51s):
And in my mind, I go great. And you gave your second hour away. So normally, you know, as a hypnotist and we know as in therapy worlds, if somebody comes with an issue around this area, the question you'd ask any sexual abuse in your life. Now, by the way, I'm in a hotel room and it's very thin walls. And I said that all of a sudden this 70 ish woman is louder than face down and screaming profusely. And I go, Oh shit. And then she's crying. I'm tapping on top of her head. I said, good job. Get it all out. Let it all go. And I shoved her. I said, hold on a second. She pulls her head up. I go, where'd you get no shoes? She said, Hmm.

2 (24m 32s):
I bought them somewhere. And I did a round of tapping on her and I said, go back to it again. And she went back down crying, but the tears and the screaming was less. I did that several times. And then in 30 minutes, I said, I want you to go back and make it feel bad. She says, I can't it's over. I said, but what was it? Because I have zero content. She goes, I don't really know. Now she goes, all I remember is running from the woods naked. And I looked like my grandmother died. I said, any emotional trauma? She said, no. I said, try to make it bother you. She said, I can't. And I said, have you tried therapy on this? She

4 (25m 8s):
Said, I've been in therapy for over 50, 60 years

2 (25m 11s):
Trying to work on this stuff. I said, what'd you try? You said you name it. I've tried it. I went to Ashkelon. I wrote on paper. I went through the big vagina and fell into the swimming pool ago. What's that never heard of it. She said it's rebirthing therapy, primal scream, hypnosis. I've been to Exelon. You name it. I've tried it all. But in that 30 minutes I trauma, which I had no content of flattened out, neurologically changed. And so I discovered that it, people go in and out of transitions all the time, thanks to the monsters and Mac people stick and arcs. Our goal is to understand mental mechanics, which is the NLP understanding.

2 (25m 54s):
So by the way, NLP is a foundation of my thinking system. And there's a lot of people who've taken many courses on NLP. And the problem with NLP courses is that when you leave, you don't know how to use it on yourself. And it's very cumbersome. And so when I was in stress, when I was in Switzerland role Switzerland, one of the ladies who was at my seminar, who owns a NLP training Institute, she said, Robert, what you have is the fourth generation of NLP, which is appliable and usable, which also NLP is also hypnosis, you know, all mixed together. But when I'm out there in the real world, I don't talk about these words. I don't talk about hypnosis because I talk logically practically.

2 (26m 35s):
And it makes sense. And you know what? The beautiful thing is,

4 (26m 38s):
It works very quickly. So if this is something can use yourself,

1 (26m 44s):
I'm assuming that you could guide a person on zoom virtually to go through the protocol and do this on their own without being in physical proximity to them.

2 (26m 54s):
Yeah. Most of my sessions are via zoom or Skype. So yes, I, I help a lot of people. Now I do have a lot of free videos. I have a lot of free trainings. You know, you go to skills to change.com. There's free trainings in there. I have a lot of free videos. I've got 1500 videos on YouTube. I have like 14 or 15 million views there. There's a lot of great testimonials. And we're talking about people with severe physical illnesses, phobias, PTSD addiction. I'm an addiction expert. I've been volunteering my time and drug rehabs for about 12 years. And you know, of course, knowing by the way, I do the biggest and worst stuff, PTSD, physical illnesses, addictions.

2 (27m 40s):
I know how the brain works. I know how to neurologically update memory. And we're talking not a long time is a very short time. You know, when you have somebody who's coming from Afghanistan, I seen all kinds of people killed and they don't know how to deal with these emotions. And they go to drugs. It's the great numb. And so when I go back and I start cleaning this up up, the guy sitting in front of me, he says, I can't, I've never talked about this stuff. Cause I can't. And I said, I understand that, listen, you don't have to tell me anything. All you got to do is go in your mind, remember and nod your head when you're done. And then less than three minutes later, I said, go back in back and bother you. He says, I can't. I said, well talk about it. He says, this is the weirdest thing it says, I don't feel nothing.

2 (28m 22s):
Now I know what happened, but I'm not there anymore. Which by the way, he says, I'm not in the trans anymore. So again, it is super simple, super easy. And of course, you know, we have, we have a training system it's for teachers and parents, how to help children because children are super easy. And when you teach children, emotional intelligence is really what we're teaching, how the brain works. I call it directed mindfulness. That means you're directing your mind, making adjustments in your mind right now, unlike most normal mindfulness practices, which you've got to meditate three hours a week or three hours a day and six months, maybe you'll have a change.

2 (29m 4s):
We're doing it immediately directed, mindless, directly changing the mind, make adjustments now move forward. So it's very simple. So again, you know, we use tapping and people ask, why do you use tapping? Well, tapping is what do you call a D frack, R you know, fractionation, you go into trance. So when you tap, you should be coming out. And if you use the EFT model, that's not a good model because they say focus on the problem, which means stay into the transits are to come out of the trans when you're in it. So one of the things is, is we pull you out of the trash. You can do something physical. You don't even have to tap. You can do something that makes you feel good. You can laugh, you can fake laugh. You can look, you can do to adjust the memory. Once you change your state.

2 (29m 44s):
And then you go back and revisit whatever you are focusing on within the memory that bothered you, it would have changed. And then you do the next level of the next segment in your mind. And then of course, you know, I train a lot of different stuff. You know, one, I train people first level, I train, you can change yourself because the biggest problem I see in, in therapies is that I can help everybody else, but I don't know how to help myself. And so that's, that's a big problem in the healing world, because if you're sick and you got your emotional issues and your client comes in and they're less sick than you are, they won't come back and see you again. So my thinking is, people need to learn how to change themselves, know how to update themselves.

2 (30m 27s):
So their life is better. Secondly, the second level I go into how to go into their unconscious. Other people's unconscious mind make fast changes very quick, and the deep neurological level. And of course we use the conscious mind, as, you know, as a finger signal like we use in hypnosis, we would say, is it, there is it not knows what you know? And then we go back and change that. So it's deep, unconscious rewriting of the, of the quarter. See? So, but yeah, that's, that's good.

1 (30m 56s):
Beautiful. So when I was giving your intro, I mentioned that you've been doing this, studying this since you were 15. And so I'm assuming there's something there that led you to start studying this. You talked about the importance of personal transformation, personal healing, and being able to utilize these tools for yourself. Are there any stories you're willing to share with us about the transformation you've experienced as a result of this work?

2 (31m 22s):
Oh man, I'll tell you what, it's the, the list of major changes in my life is long, but I will say this, you know, you see me as a public speaker, you see me presenting, you see me sharing. Now, there was a time in my life. I couldn't stand up in front of class. I was shy. I was not a public speaker. There was no way I could ever do it in class, super fearful, super, you know, unhappy, angry, hurt, never would be able to share with anybody. And so now my life in my, my world, I'm traveling around the world and people are paying me to talk to them.

2 (32m 3s):
I mean, you think about it. That's pretty freaking amazing. But especially when you're a kid, kids are to be seen and not heard. You know? So again, you know, when you have childhood school issues, those will prevent you from speaking up and standing up for yourself. But I changed those. And so that's one, of course my financial world is, is I would never believe the life I have, you know, 20 years ago, 30 years ago, if you were to say in your future and the crystal ball, you'll be traveling around the world. You'll be educating educators and doctors and nurses, and that people will, you a lot of money just to set with you. I would just laugh at them.

2 (32m 44s):
There's no way I can't even stay in front of class. So these are major changes and the changes continue in my life as I work on myself. And so that's the real key is knowing how to change myself because see, I believe that we should all be our own healers. And that's my goal is to educate people says, listen, you're not broken. You're not screwed up. You're successfully creating this problem from your great limbic mind in the information. And the cortices all you have to do is change the information, you know? And once you change information, your behavior changes your life changes. And it's not a struggle. You know, when art jumped in the water, he wasn't fearful, the fear was gone and he wasn't stupid either.

2 (33m 28s):
Which means he knows he's not a professional swimmer, but his power was given back to him. And that's what people need, you know, is having their own power. So that's, that's what I do is I, I show you how to take control.

1 (33m 43s):
Have you noticed that as you do this work with other people that you find more and more healing with yourself inside yourself, and if so, what would you say? I have so many people come to me and they feel like they need to have arrived. Like they need to be perfect before they can help other people. And so speak to that for sure.

2 (34m 2s):
Yeah. Well, first of all, having the, the, the standard of perfectionism, that's the lowest standard you could ever have because you could never achieve it. You know? So if you've gotta be perfect, that's what my oldest son said, Hey dad, I can't believe you're putting that stuff out there. It's not perfect. I said, of course not. It's the best I can do. And over time I have progressed because I keep perfecting myself again, I'm not broken in. What I do is perfect. Now, granted, can I learn from this and improve from myself? Of course, but the deal is it's our own judgments. And we learned it from our parents. We learned from our schools, we learn it from our churches, our religions, which by the way, if you have this model, you gotta be perfect.

2 (34m 48s):
It will never occur. So why don't you just do the best you can learn from it, grow from it and keep improving. So that's what I do. Of course, you know, like, you know, you know, I've never claimed to be perfect because it's not on my birth certificate nor my driver's license. I am me. I do what I know how to do. And I'm always liking myself more. Therefore I improve myself.

1 (35m 16s):
Beautiful. If you think back to when you first started, you've, you've been researching, you've been understanding you've been doing some self work and you first start to share this with other people and to use this, perhaps in a, in a, the context of like a therapeutic intervention, was that how, what kind of self-talk went through your mind and empowered you to start actually using this with people and sharing it with the world?

2 (35m 42s):
You know, of course I started, you know, of course I come from an imperfect family, a very functioning, dysfunctional family. And of course, when you marry, we have a tendency to marry what we're familiar with. And of course, you know, my wife at the time, she said, you know, I was abused. And I said, well, as I was two, so how am I going to deal with her? So over a period of time, I've always been what you call a searcher of truth. You know, buying a cassette series of Anthony Robbins, your limited power listening and inundating my mind with positivity. My mission was to learn how it works into to help people.

2 (36m 25s):
And my whole mission was to help my wife, my family, and myself. And so anywhere I would go, if I, if somebody was standing still long enough, I was willing to help them. And I've done it many places. So my passion was to get results, to see results and to see changes. And the beautiful thing about my work is you easily see a lot of changes in a single session. So that was my passion. And then I worked with this one lady and she gave me $50 for helping her. I said, what? You can actually make money doing this. I would have never thought of it because mine was not money motivated. It was life changing and making a difference in the world.

2 (37m 5s):
Motivation. I'm still that way. But then that's what, again, what is your reasoning for what you do? You know, again, it's like the guy who came to my office and he wanted to kill himself. You know, he says, he's got his news hung up in the garage. And of course I bring him from the four year. It looks like a drug addict. I say, what's going on Tim? Now, Tim is a very successful businessman. He has a great home. He has a great life, has a great family, but he wanted to kill himself. He said they will be better off without me. And then I started asking him the right questions. I go, well, where'd you learn this? Where do you, how do you know it's this way? And it goes back to his childhood because see, his family was the joke of town.

2 (37m 47s):
Inland made fun of him. And of course they made fun of him and they were the dirt, poor people. So in his life as a kid, he made decision. I want to be somebody, but the problem is his pain drove him to do the right things. But the problem is he took the nobody with him. So even though he's successful, he's still nothing until that day when he walked out, because we updated to where he's always been somebody and that somebody has made him work harder. And the little boy that was hurt is no longer hurt. So again, this is a very, so that's what I did with myself. You know, I've had not what you call great experiences, but when you change them, I have a lot of good experiences.

2 (38m 28s):
So again, you know, like if you're, if you're going to have a fantasy, you can be the worst piece of crap in the world, or you could be the most amazing piece of in the world. It all depends on what you hold in your mind. And so that's what we do. We just update the memories and how we perceive things.

1 (38m 44s):
What would you say to someone I'm just playing devil's advocate here? Who says, well, but that really happened to me and you can't change the past, and this is who I really am. What would you say to that person?

2 (38m 55s):
Yeah. And I will agree with him. You're right. You can't change the past because the past doesn't exist. And, and you know, you sit around your family and your sock around the dinner table and you're talking about event and there's five different stories and there's a fight because who's right. Again, what you hold in your mind is only one thing. And that is not the real past. That's a distorted point of view. And if you don't change what you hold in your mind, because the truth is memories in your mind are designed to keep you in alignment with it. That means if you have a crappy memory in your mind, that guarantees you're going to re-experience that again. So if you change your memories, your unpleasant memories update them.

2 (39m 36s):
It doesn't mean you change the past. It only changes what your brain does to you. And the real question is, would you give this painful memory and experience to one of your children? Most likely not. Therefore you should not hold it inside yourself because the reason why people hold memories in and the whole purpose of pain is pain is trying to keep you from being hurt again. But also is guaranteed while you hold the pain you're being hurt over and over again.

1 (40m 7s):
Robert, you mentioned that your, your relationship with money has changed over the years. And you talked about how, when you first started, you, weren't asking for money. I believe at Zig Ziglar, who says something to the effect of, if you help enough people get what they want, you'll have, you'll have abundance. Can you talk to me about the mindset shift that has happened for you? And I ask this because I know a lot of people listening to this podcast, they really want to help people, but they really want to have be able to live a good life and create an income for themselves. So talk to me a little bit about the mindset shift that you have undergone since you begin all of this.

2 (40m 45s):
Yeah, that's, that's a good question because you know, I come from a very poor family. You know, we have, we have a lot of memories that are installed in our life, from our life experiences, from our parents and our religions and interaction. So one of the things for me is I have worked on those. I changed those memories. And secondly, as Zig Ziglar, even Jesus Christ clearly says, you'll help. The more people you help, the greater you become. Again, a lot of things, people treat money like it's some mystical, magical power, and it really isn't the money you have or not have is a direct result of your current belief systems and your current attitudes. It represents your spirituality.

2 (41m 25s):
It represents your parents. It represents yourself value. As you change East, each of these memories of areas of your life, naturally money comes your way. So what I did is I sat down and looked and said, if I do X I'll get Y. So my whole purpose was to do what it took to help people and get paid for my great service. It's that simple. Now, again, the reason why people don't is because of their own personal values, their own personal identity, their own personal relationships and experiences with their world. So, so you just fix that.

1 (42m 4s):
So a person could re realistically use your, your methods to release that money mindset that they have, perhaps if they have a poverty mindset and then move into a place where they feel empowered to help people, I've noticed for myself, the more I focus on who I'm helping. And I think, you know, when I, when that imposter monster is yelling in my ear and saying, you're, you're not making a difference. If I start thinking about the testimonials that come in and the people that tell me how the video that they saw changed, that changed it or their life, all of a sudden it takes that focus off of building abundance. And it's just feels so good to give. I don't think there's any better feeling in the world,

2 (42m 45s):
But, but you have to understand the most important thing, Laurie, if that, per that part of you, that is still inside you, it always knocks on your door. So what you need to do is go in and figure out how did you learn to have this? What is its intentions? What are the memories that represent this? And when you change it, the door never knocked by that. Because again, it's you,

1 (43m 8s):
Right? Do you ever have someone say, well, I don't know what that memory is. I don't know what that, you know, where that hypnotic programming came in

2 (43m 16s):
99.9, nine, 9% of the world act and not even know why they do, but with the art of change, it elicits unconscious strategy, which is a list of about 67 or 80 questions that is asking belief, structure, references, metaphoric, expressions, value systems, and payback. You change all of those. You don't have a problem. Matter of fact, you almost forgot you had it.

1 (43m 44s):
You mentioned earlier that you asked the right questions. And I think asking the right questions is so powerful. Tony Robbins says the power of our lives is dictated by the power, by the quality of our questions. Do you, is there a place where people who are curious, confined that list of questions or a specific training where you teach those? Right?

2 (44m 3s):
The audit change is, is, is my system. It's, it's given to you in level one training. You can change yourself. We use it all the time. And that is to elicit unconscious strategies. And Anthony is absolutely right. You know, the quality of your question is determined by the priests, presumed beliefs about yourself. Why am I such a loser? Pre presumed belief is I'm a loser. Why am I so amazing? The pre presumed truth is I'm amazing. So again, you go change the loser memories and references improves your questions naturally are updated. And the angle of thinking is already shifted.

2 (44m 43s):
So, yeah.

0 (44m 45s):
Awesome. Is there anything that I haven't asked you that would be important to know or anything that you would want to say to a person who's skeptical or hesitant to help them get outside their comfort zone and start using this stuff?

2 (44m 60s):
Yeah. Well, I would say what I tell people, and I say this, the best money you'll ever spend is learning how to know you from within you, learning how to love you, and like you from inside your mind, learning how to make adjustments of the unpleasant memories and change them. Because the best investment you have is in your mind, we know that you, a lot of you guys have paid a lot of money to go into the learn therapies, learn techniques and processes, but actually going inside your own mind and changing your own self, because see what you do in here, you're going to do to others. Our parents loved us the best way they knew how they impacted us from their own programmings.

2 (45m 43s):
You do the same to your children, your friends, your family, and your colleagues, because it's coming from your own. Unpleasantries not all we have some good stuff too. But when you change the system of pain and hurt and fear, naturally you'll act in a positive way without even trying. So if I could say anything, invest in your own self, learn to feel safe in your own mind, in your own memories and change all the ones that are unpleasant. And as you do that, you are the great recipient of the positivity and the law of attraction works better because you do attract what you hold in your mind, and that's the good, the bad and the ugly.

0 (46m 30s):
Awesome. Thank you so much, Robert. I'm so happy that the imposter brought us together and I will put notes beneath the video beneath the podcast, wherever you're listening to learn more about Robert and his trainings. Thank you for being here and have an amazing day. I'm so grateful. You've listened all the way to the end. What is one tiny action step you'll take now, based on an aha moment you got during the podcast, maybe that life changing action step is to come accept the gift I have for [email protected] Head there right now to get your powerful, hypnosis audio, the answer room that lets you make important decisions and get crystal clear about your next step forward on this path of purpose in your one.

0 (47m 22s):
Great and precious life.

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