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If you were haunted and harassed by your own inner critic, if you've ever been curious about why hypnosis works so well, if you're a seasoned hypnotist, or if you suspect that the inner critic is actually hypnotizing you to hold back from reaching the greatness that you know, deep down is inside you, lean in and get inspired to get out of your comfort zone and create your one precious life with purpose and intention. If you like this show, you'll love my powerful hypnosis audio, the answer room, because it gives you crystal clear guidance and direction and illuminates an ingenious way to make triumphant decisions.

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No matter how stuck you feel or how confused you were. This powerful hypnosis audio is my gift to you. When you go to the imposter again, that's the imposter Don't forget the VA, the imposter And yes, I'm done saying it. Thank you. Thank you. From the bottom of my heart for listening. I'm Lori Hammond, and I'm truly grateful for you.

1 (1m 18s):
As I was putting the finishing touches on this podcast, I put a little post up in my Facebook group saying I have an interview with Carl Smith coming up, who wants in and already dozens and dozens of people have said me, me send it to me. And I want to read a comment from one person from my friend, John Gill. He says, I took a course on kinetic shift with Carl in 2015. What a guy totally grateful for the learnings I received, plus a kick up the arse. That's how Americans say it in confidence. Looking forward to the podcast during this podcast episode, Carl mentioned that if you have three things, then you have everything you need to give your client during a session.

1 (2m 3s):
If you can give them confidence self-esteem and a sense of purpose. And I believe that as you watch this interview with Carl Smith, you are going to feel all of those things welling up inside you and have a sense of purpose about getting your message out into the world and realizing that these tools empower you to let go of any limiting beliefs that you have from the past. I hope you absolutely enjoy this empowering interview from Carl Smith. He is one of my favorite teachers. I have been following him since the very beginning of my career. And I was so honored to have this conversation. You can find links to everything we talk about in the notes below the show, enjoy this conversation with Carl Smith, by the way, if you know Carl Smith, then you won't be surprised to know that there is some strong language in this episode.

1 (2m 53s):
This is not one to listen to while your kids are around. He was trying so hard to keep it G-rated until we got about halfway through. And I

2 (3m 0s):
Said, Oh, just let it let it loose because I feel like it has to his presence and his message. And it's just authentically Carl. I actually enjoy it. So enjoy this episode. No, that they're strong language. Don't listen with your kids and have an absolute blast becoming inspired, building your own self-esteem confidence and sense of purpose. Welcome Carl. I have been so excited to meet with you. I think you and I were going to connect a couple of years ago when I was in the UK and it never happened. And so I've been just super excited for this conversation. And I wonder if you would just tell the listeners, people who are tuning in many of them, I'm sure have heard of you and are familiar with your work, but for someone who is brand new to Smith, will you just tell me a little bit about your journey and how you got to where you are today?

3 (3m 52s):
Well, when I first w used to do podcasts, it used to take me about 15 minutes to do. They saw I'm going to condense it down to the real condensed version, a young lad from a holiday resort in the UK called great Yarmouth, grew up always wanting to join the military. So I went and joined. The military spent 12 years in the British army, went to all the places that your holiday representative won't send you to. I left the army just due to the fact of I'd just had enough of what we were doing and, you know, and, and how things were going. And, you know, I still did a lot of tours, but I decided to leave. I think joined the police w I was, I actually left the army and it was a planned plan thing that I did.

3 (4m 34s):
I left the army on a Friday and joined the police on the Sunday. And I joined a civil as in a civil police force, as, as in like the, your local coppers or Bobby's or wherever you are in the world. I joined that joined the police force and then went straight into firearms. Now, for those people in the U S or Canada or anything like that, you have armed officers in the UK. We only have about 10% of our officers armed the rest of them. We give wooden sticks and ask them to sort the crap out off the bat. So I joined firearms and then ended up on working on like a counter-terrorism team. So then I was on like the SWAT. So for those in England, UK firearms, tactical teams for us, and anywhere else, I was on like what you call SWAT teams.

3 (5m 17s):
So I was doing all that type of fancy stuff there. So I, I was enjoying my police career. And on August 4th, 2006, I was at home. I'd just finished duty, a drink driver that had been at a funeral, decided to park his car in mine. And my next door, neighbor's front garden in front of the house. I run outside. He reversed over me by accident, and then he left me in the road, but then he realized he'd done something really wrong. So he put it into first and it's a stick. It was a stick shift. It was a gate car for those people that are not automatic. I stuck in the first and then hit me again and then dragged me all the way back home. The only nice thing he did that day was take me back home.

3 (5m 57s):
Apparently they reckon 90 yards. If I'm a close to nine yards between 69 yards, they found all my clothes anyway behind us. And then he dragged me all the way back. I went through counseling, absolutely terrible. Went through CBT, made it worse, tried everything under the sun. And a friend of mine said he did hypnosis. And I'm coming back to the great, Yarm a bit that I mentioned at the beginning, that's a seaside holiday resort. So the reason I mentioned that from very young is because it was, it was a big holiday, is a big holiday resort in, in the UK. And my only thing that I had on hypnosis was, was your Deron brands. Your Kim Webster's flows in England for, you know, for you, you richly barkers and all that.

3 (6m 39s):
Like, you know, all of our state shipments, it's like, that's all I had is that people making a fool of himself. So this police officer educated me, he educated me on what hypnosis really is. And then what happened then is, is he helped me and it helped pop the, what I now know to be post-trauma a pop that in me, and it just continued pouring out over several hours. And then I went, what the bloody hell was that I need to learn that. So I went away and I learned with us, I learned with, and we'll come onto this later on, but I did do a 10 month useless diploma, but then also went with a guy called Jonathan Chase, who a lot of people hit my thoughts and around the globe with no, anyway.

3 (7m 22s):
And they went, we spent, I spent two days with Jonathan and I learned more in 48 hours than I did with Jonathan. I did in a T in a 10 month course. And it just became a drug until eventually I left the police force and became a full-time hypnotherapists, hypnotist. And, you know, I've, you know, during my time am I, my, my, you know, my time in the police force, I was working with lots and lots of police charities. I was, I've been involved in lots of very, very serious events and stuff like that involving firearms or death in custody or anything like that in the United Kingdom. And I learned my trade there, you know, so I was able to work for a charity, give something back and, and then literally get myself into a position where, Hey, Presto, Carlos is on the scene.

2 (8m 8s):
There is so much there that I want to unpack. And one of the first thing that jumped out at me is you mentioned that you had done CBT and that it made it worse. And I've actually heard this a few times. You want to elaborate a little bit about why you think that is or what your experience was like.

3 (8m 24s):
So what I want to do is I just want to make sure that I'm clear here is that I am not, there are, there are great hypnotists. There are great counselors. There are great CBTS that do a good job. In my opinion, in my opinion, they're not as deep as what we as hypnotists. We know that, that you know, that we can do a very, very, we can have a high impact in a short space of time with an individual with hypnosis, because it's a direct line CBT or cognitive behavioral therapy, or as I like to call it, cognitive behavioral just means that what you do is, is you just keep swimming around in your own crap until the desensitizing. And it really did make it worse, though, the best way that I explain CBT to people.

3 (9m 6s):
And I'm really, this is my personal opinion. If you're having a CBT and it's working brilliant, but the way that I explain CBT to people is like having a hot plate and then getting your hand burn in it. And then what you do is getting a therapist to keep getting you to burn it and burn it and burn it until eventually you're sitting there screaming out and then you numb and take all the skin and the nerve endings off. If you haven't, that's probably the best way that I can explain CBT in a polite way.

2 (9m 33s):
I appreciate that metaphor. I actually fully agree with you. And I also agree that if someone is using CBT, that's effective, keep doing it. But for me, I, I grew up in therapy. My, my parents divorced when I was 12 and I was in therapy for years and years and years. And that's what it felt like is just touching that hot stove over and over and over,

3 (9m 54s):
Well, what can it be achieved in 12, 12 sessions in counseling or CBT I can achieve in probably 12 minutes. And those people who haven't seen my YouTube channel go look, and then you can go look at it that way, but we've discussed that at the end, but yeah, very, that's a very bold statement, but yeah, I could probably achieve more in 12 minutes than some counselors and CBT is going to achieve in 12, 12.

2 (10m 17s):
Yeah. I truly believe that. That's true. And I've seen you in work and I, I fully underscore that comment. Carl, you mentioned that it was a police officer that led you through the transformation that brought you to study hypnosis. What was his training?

3 (10m 34s):
His training was all very much Ericksonian. So they, for those people who don't, who don't know, I'm a very, very, Elmanian, I'm very close to Larry and Cheryl Elman for those who don't know the son of Dave Elman, I'm very Elmanian. He was very Ericksonian, very long and windy winded statements and leaving for ambiguity. But it did work. I will point that out. He did work, but his was through years of neuro-linguistic programming, lots of Ericksonian work, rarely and fundamental hypnosis. So, yeah. So yeah, he, he had a bit of training prior to meeting him.

2 (11m 10s):
It's the reason I ask is because I noticed so many people will, after they've trained, they're afraid to start, but he was a police officer, not a practicing hypnotist. Yes.

3 (11m 21s):
He'd been doing, he'd been doing this, he'd been doing it for some, some time. But I think the confidence of being a police officer, being able to talk to people, I think that's where to me is that being able to strike a conversation anywhere at any time also helps. But that's not to say that it's just the police officer do. It's just something that we get trained in doing to talk to people. So when I'm talking to my clients, I can strike up a bond very quickly. Some people call it rapport, some people call it, you know, you can call it, but you'll be one rarely. But, but yeah, he was to get me an educate me quite quickly. That's the key thing about this, about educating new clients quite quickly to them bring them in once you get that, that's it.

3 (12m 1s):
But yeah, he was quite quick on that.

2 (12m 3s):
Would this be an appropriate place for you to elaborate a little bit about educating your client? Maybe give us an example of how you do that. Is that getting into your training?

3 (12m 12s):
No, no, no, no. I don't mind. So the, the quick way Bartlett, if I'd have brought some things with me, if I, if I don't know, but, but th th the, the way that I look at it is by simple psychology. That's the way I look at it. But I talk about the left hemisphere, the right hemisphere. I talk about why we do what we do. I talk about the fight flight freeze mechanism, why that fires off the way that if there's conflict between emotion, a QA ism, immune, or QA. So if you don't know who email QA is, MLK came and told us that many years ago, if there's conflict between the emotion and the intellect of the emotion will always win. So that's a very key thing as well. So talking about why we do what we do, a lot of people as well, I've been teaching the dilemma thing as well, where you can teach that conflict between emotion and insight, by getting them to hold a lemon.

3 (12m 58s):
I don't tend to do that nowadays. I get them to hold something that they despise something that they don't like, like maybe I had one early today. It was tequila. Normally it's an alcohol based thing that people come out with vodka or tequila. They've had a bad night on it. And if they smell it, they just get that. What I tend to do is, is, is it's a show that their emotions are all figments of their imagination. Post-trauma is a figment of your imagination. Big statement. I bet post-trauma is a figment of your imagination. Anxieties frequently, right? Imagination stresses as well. We go through stressful periods, but what happens thereafter is figments your imagination. So it's for instance, Lori, if I was to go, if I was to say to you, now give me a drink.

3 (13m 43s):
Now give me an alcoholic beverage that you've had that you just do not like anymore.

2 (13m 48s):
Tequila is one

3 (13m 49s):
Gala. So if I do this now, just what I want you to do is just put your hand out in front of you. Like, so, okay. Just close your eyes. Just imagine, only imagine now that you got a glass of tequila in your hand, just bring that tequila underneath your nose. Now, just smell that to keep, there you go. And for if this has gone on a podcast, so those who aren't watching this at the moment, or if you're not watching the video version, Laura is currently screwing her face up three, two, one, just open your eyes. And for those people, what I want you to do now, listening to this, I want you to do that. I want you to hold your hand up, imagine that you're holding something. That's amping, put that glass down. Now. Something that's absolutely disgusting that you don't like because of that very reason. And then I want you to pretend to eat it and watch what happens with the physiological side of your body.

3 (14m 32s):
And then that's it. So why, when I've gone through this whole process of the left and the right hemisphere, the logical brain, the emotional brain, the conflict between them, they that the emotion, if there's conflict between your logical brain, your emotive brain, your emotion will always win. Proving what, what happened is there, but that tequila or anyone that's listening to this at that moment about there is no tequila. There is no tequila at the moment. So your body is reacting to something that isn't real. And that's a simple way of looking at it. Your facial photos, post-trauma isn't real. I was, I was remembering stuff, and I'm not going to go into, I don't want to go into vicarious stuff here, but then there were certain times in my military, that things happen that I wish I'd never ever seen.

3 (15m 16s):
And seeing the worst of humanity. I've seen the worst of humanity. I can tell you that now, but we're not 10 years rolling. On 10 years on when I had the car accident, my body felt like I was still there. It wasn't there. It was a figment of my imagination. And, and that's the way, you know, some people may want to go a little bit more scientific on that, but I'm trying to keep this simple right for people. Is it the, the, the, the gunman wasn't in the room, the person wasn't in the room, the Dade body wasn't in the room, the incident I wasn't in the inside, but my body acts the same way is that tequila or whatever you're doing now, that, that shine away that I'm going to, don't bring it near me and you get all of that.

3 (15m 59s):
And that's the key thing there. So a really, really good way to, to, to really start this office, to educate your clients is to educate your clients, why you're doing what you're doing. A lot of people, I, Laurie, I don't even bother doing consultations. Another bold statement. I don't do consultations because this will help. This comes back onto what your podcast is doing. It is that if you, if, if you're, if the people listen to this, now, remember the issue is never the issue. The issue is never the issue. So when a client comes in and says, it's anxiety, it's got nothing to do with anxiety. When a client comes in and says, it's, post-trauma, it's got nothing to do with post-trauma. When they come in and tell you weight loss, nothing to do weight loss, Teddy, biting, nails, nothing, smoking, nothing.

3 (16m 43s):
I'm going to keep doing this all day, because it's got nothing to do with the issue. The issue is more underlying than that. And my job is to get directly into that and find out why this is the presenting issue, not the actual issue. The issue is never the issue. Anyone, anyone in the therapy world will tell you, you know, who's got a pounder. Who's got, you know, just anything about them. Who's seen enough clients. They will tell you the issue is never. The issue never is. And that's where training sometimes lets people down, they're chasing, they're chasing ghosts. That's what they're doing. They're chasing ghosts. So a lot of people lose their confidence at the very beginning because they're chasing ghosts. They're not looking for the, they're not being an investigator.

3 (17m 25s):
They're not investigating. What's really going on and you're gonna make me go down the scriptures cause I will hit the scripts. I will.

2 (17m 34s):
Well, I w I want to ask you, because my, when I'm listening to you saying that I'm trying to hear with, from the ears of my audience. And I feel like that might put pressure on them, like, Oh, all this pressure to figure out what the issue is. And what I've found is if I look at my client as if their unconscious mind has the key to unlock this for them, and I just have to figure out how to, how to get to the answer inside them, it takes the pressure off me to find that. What, tell me what you think about that.

3 (18m 3s):
The key thing is, is the issue is never the issue. So when I put people into hypnosis and, but by all means this lesson to save time for Lori now is that this lesson is on my YouTube channel. It's called the emotional detox, right? I'm not going to go into too much detail now for those people who want to go watch it, I'm not asking for any money or anything like that. You'll see me do the emotional detox. What I tend to do is, is to get people in is I use content free hypnosis. So I put people into their hypnosis, their hypnosis, not my hypnosis test, my work to make sure and ensure that I've got hypnosis. They're not. I do then as I get them to get the client to let go of any negative images, feelings, thoughts, and emotions, or sensations, negative images, feelings, thoughts, emotions, or sensations that have held onto over the past few weeks, the past few months, the past few years, all the way back to when they were a little boy and a little girl.

3 (18m 49s):
And then the bit of magic comes when actually I shut up. Now, that's interesting because what I do is I just sit back and calibrate consistently with the client, not saying a word, not saying a word. And all I do is I sit there. And just so you know, just once and every couple of minutes, or when I, when I look at the client, I think that they've done something I'm looking for. Physiological changes, emotive changes. I'm looking for all of those things there. And when I know that I finished that process, either by they've stopped shaking, they've stopped crying. They've stopped getting angry, whatever it is when they've stopped, I tell them to open their eyes when they're ready. And then when they open their eyes, we have a bit of a check, five we've checked fire.

3 (19m 29s):
What's actually come from it's my old military stuff. That is we have, we have a little bit of a check to see what goes on there. And then we put them back in, let go of any negative images, feelings, thoughts, and emotions you've held on. And I continue that process because your brain is like a pressure cooker. Your brain is like a pressure cooker. And if you don't let go of the pressure, it will explode. Not literally. I don't want you to take that as a serious now, but you will put your hate. And I'm sure some of the listeners and viewers on this will understand I've ever been in a position, but it's just like, I'm going to, I'm just going to hurt that person in a moment. That's when the pressure cooker, when people get really stressed out really quickly, if you look at it like a pressure cooker and, and look at it, all the things that have happened since you were a little child, or just want to be pressure cooker our job as hypnotists is to alleviate that.

3 (20m 15s):
And when we do that with the emotional detox, letting go of all the issues, all the emotions, the feelings, the thoughts and images, and then he says, sensations have held onto, since a child, we relieve the pressure of the pressure cooker. That's the way I look at it. And you know what it works. And that then that's the beauty of this stuff. Is that being content free and being content free, it helps. And I, you know, a lot of people struggle. I'm going to go down this road. I was going to, I thought about it. I'm not going to do it. The reason that most people struggle is because they've got crap trainers. They trainers taught them with what is commonly known is a barbaric system, a terrible system, and a, and an outdated system for debts, you know, for, for dying off psychotherapists.

3 (21m 2s):
And that is scripts. Now, a lot of people are going to be sitting in that gun. Oh my God, you can't say that. I spent two years in college being taught how to write a script. Well, let's come back to this, right? The issue is never the issue. So if you're writing a script for an issue that your client presents, you're talking crap in your session, do you understand what crap is over there? Yeah, you would do crap. Crap. You're talking crap because the issue is never the issue. The presenting issue is never the issue. So a lot of young therapists, a lot of new people coming through struggle because they've been let down by their trainers. That's why you find a certain clique of us.

3 (21m 43s):
Not because of me goes, cause if you want to talk about egos, driving fast cars, blowing doors off that's ego, this is passion. What you hear now I can sit there until I've been in ego state before we're hung off the side of buildings and done some really freaky stuff by blowing, you know, blowing out windows, driving fast cars. Wouldn't talk all day. I'll do that. That's ego. This is passion about, about a profession that I love daily. And those, those people that teach scripts, in my opinion, a failed psychotherapist, trying to try and to get a bit of Marjorie on a, on a bit of bread that last scraping of the margarine or the butter in the bottom of that container and trying to get over that bread as much as they can as thinly as they can over the 10 months.

3 (22m 27s):
And that's the way I say it because, because scripts will damage your confidence, not increase your confidence. Now bullet points on a bit of paper, great, full blown scrapes, crap, full blown crap. You'll talk in, in your sessions. There's one thing that I want to give, give the, the newer members is if you're talking through your session, your client can't process, you've got to, you've got to be able to get the client into the position. This is why that emotional detox and my YouTube channel. If they people want to watch it, go watch it. You'll see me. I will shut up for four, five, six, seven, even 10 minutes sometimes to allow them to process their stuff.

3 (23m 13s):
Not me trying to force stuff in that's where the confidence phase that's. Where am I? My, my biggest thing about getting notice, train in and may Mike Mondell may want Mandela sing off the same song sheet. Hey, cause except I'm a little bit more expressive about it. Let's just say is that, you know, if, if the issue is never the issue, you're the younger people in the that listen to this. Now you've been fed a load of crap. I'll tell you that. Now there is so many other words that I could call it at the, but I'm not gonna, I'm just gonna stay with crap because that's a nice low level one. But the key thing is is that the reason that people's confidence is not is because they've been taught scripts.

3 (23m 55s):
They haven't been taught properly and you've got to come away from that because scripts do nothing. If you, if you, if you step away from that, put the person into hypnosis and just allow them to process your confidence will increase. No end. I will tell you that. Now

2 (24m 16s):
I fully agree. And I, I feel like the reason a lot of people rely on those scripts is because they're not quite sure what the process is underneath the principles that are creating that change. And then also my very first podcast guest was Steven Blake. And I interviewed him because he responded to one of my emails and said, I think hypnotists are afraid because it seems too easy. And I think when it's we feel like we're not doing anything, but when we can trust that it's the client, that's doing it anyway. We can step away from that script and accept that it can be that easy.

3 (24m 52s):
I'll tell you now I, when I'm working, especially content-free, is that when I'm working, I tend to uncover stuff that the client has not seen for years and years and years. And if we put it back to the analogy of the, of the, of the, of the, the pressure cooker, if we look at that where you are, pressure cookers, all those little things that have been stuck in subconscious unconscious monkey brain, there've been stuck there all those years, blocking it all up. There've been causing all of these tequila moments to happen. The fight flight freeze mechanism, fight. We verbally fight or flight. We verbally fight or physically fight flight. We want to wait in the scenario, freeze, recall into a ball, your clients. If you ask your clients, if they've ever heard of fight flight freeze or say, have you ever fought your way out of something, run away from something or froze and hoped it will go away.

3 (25m 36s):
Then they'll, they'll get that. And you've got to start. You've got to start really working with the client in a basic format and getting them to understand that what they're doing is isn't abnormal. It's, they're just doing bad things, crap things really well. That's what they're doing. You know, that's all, that's all they're doing. We all go through it. We all have depression. We all have depression. We all have anxiety. We all have stress. We all have tension. We all have that. Right. We're humans. Anyone who says, I reckon a Dalai Lama wakes up some days, right? And he's, he's pretty peed off. Cause he's lentils are cold, right? He has a bad day sometimes. Right? The Dalai Lama. I bet he does. But the thing is, is that we all have that.

3 (26m 16s):
It's about how we are more resistant to it and how we recover from it. Depression is like that as well. We all have depression. There's no two ways about it. I sit here sometimes going like that. Oh my God. But it's how my recovery rates from that is from that. You know, so people have been beaten all the way down and they just, they just beat themselves up. Come back to a QA is, and by the way, if you tell yourself something, you will become it. So an MLQ a ism. If you tell yourself something, you will become it. So if you tell yourself you're crap, guess what happens if you tell yourself you're great, then guess what you think. You're great. I'm not going to go into politics at the moment, but there is somebody in America that just consistently tells himself. He's great. Anyway, but the thing is, is that, look what happens.

3 (26m 58s):
He just breeds that people want that breed. It don't they, and the negativity, those people that breed that negativity, they just do it. There. It's about knowing when to it was depression on how to stop it and showing people very quickly, how they can stop. You can stop depression really, really quickly. And there'll be people out there go, no, no, no, no. You need to give them 50 sessions. 50 sessions. No. It's about responsibility. Given responsibility back to your client. That's the key thing.

2 (27m 24s):
Will you say a little more about that? Because this is something I'm really passionate about. When I learned hypnosis, it was to manage my weight and the side effect was it, it wiped out obliterated a lifelong decades of depression. And it made me realize that you can put the most empowering thing about hypnosis. And the reason I became a hypnotist is that I realized how easily you can guide a person out of depression. And it's really controversial. So I'll let you say it. And I'll just sit here and nod my head.

3 (27m 55s):
Well, you're doing it at the moment is pushing me under the bus under loads of them. So the thing is, is that, is that depression is about, if you tell your substance and you become it, when a client comes to me and tells me they have depression or stuff like that, then I go, okay, so do you want it anymore? And it's that old thing about owning it? Isn't it. I make them very clear that they don't have to own it. Now it's just a big label. It's all age, just a big label. The next thing is, is that what I do is I give them purpose, the key fundamental thing to a human being. They need purpose. So once I've cleared out all the negativity they've been holding on to, I think give them, drive them to a purpose. What do you want to achieve?

3 (28m 37s):
Well, I don't know. I've always wanted to be a painter and decorator. I've always wanted to be a hypnotist. I've always wanted to, to, to, to walk up Mount Everest. I've always wanted to do this. So then when we do, then we look at achievable goals around that. But the key fundamental thing is is that for those people who aren't aware of what I'm going to talk about now, these are the things you can go find out yourself. It's that? I teach some things like a great affirmations. That's good. If you tell yourself something, you become it, get them to write down something on. And I swear, Laurie, you're the first podcast and Mike, Mike, Mike, Mr. Mayan, is going to be really proud of me. I've not really sworn him.

2 (29m 13s):
I noticed I'm so impressed. You can.

3 (29m 16s):
Yeah. Now if somebody, like, if somebody writes, if somebody might, if somebody says I can awesome, right. I will get them to write that down and put it on their fridge. Now that's not uncommon by. But the key thing is, is that in my sessions is I teach them EFT, emotional freedom techniques, or thought field therapy. So TFT, EFT, or any other tap tapping sequence is another great. One is as well. Haven is a great thing to teach people. So what I say to people, because at the end of the day, I won't throw somebody out just after one session, especially with depression. I need to go check them. Same as post-trauma, I'll go do some checks with them and stuff like that. And the following week or two weeks later.

3 (29m 56s):
Right. And I get them back and I say, okay, how did, how did you get an on? And then they sit and go. I feel like crap, just as worse. Okay. How did you get on your homework? And they go, Brooke, didn't bother doing it. I'll tell you now they just get a kick and straight off of me. And for anyone who's never seen me do a session. I am vicious. I am really vicious. People come to me because I am vicious. People love that. They like that. Statistically, people like that, they like being sworn at told there everything under the sun. Right. If you're looking for a unicorn stroker on the opposite end. Alright, so I am not a unicorn Stryker. I don't sit there Pat, Pat in unicorns or chasing fairies at the end of the garden. If you believe in that.

3 (30m 37s):
And that's your thing. Beautiful. Right? Brilliant. On the other end of the scale. And, and so I will give him, I will, I'll give them a good shoe and I'll give them, I'll give them a bollock and all night long. But the key thing is, is that make my client's responsible for their own actions because when they come back and say, yeah, I've been doing that for, and I've been doing the affirmations and I feel really good. Then all I've got to do is amplify that state. That's all I've got to do, make them more responsible for their own actions and give them a goal to go do something as well. That's the key thing.

2 (31m 8s):
That's brilliant. So I have two questions in the back of my mind and I'll, I'll give them both to you and you can choose which to answer first, you had mentioned your 10 months training and then your couple of days long training and the difference between the two. And I also know that people who are listening are going to be wanting to know more about your trainings and how you teach people on how they can access that. So if you would address that, and then the second thing is you had mentioned, and I'm forgetting what it is right now. So I'm going to come back to this and perhaps edit this out. So let's talk about the training.

3 (31m 40s):
You just think about that. And I'll answer that first question about the 10 month. Let me talk about the 10 month training. A lot of people, a lot of people get caught up with my training was 450 hours. I've done 950 million hours, quantity and quality, two different things, quantity and quality, do different things just because you've achieved 450 hours on a course does not make you a clinical hypnotherapist. I can make a clinical hypnotherapist in three days, far more potent, far more effective than somebody who's been on a 10 month course. And, and that's the key thing here is that people get really confused with this over quality over quantity.

3 (32m 21s):
So if you're telling me, I retrain people on a, on a monthly basis, those that have been promised the no knife, because each year this number just increases and increases where I've had. I've had over a thousand hours of training and I call myself a clinical hypnotist. Okay. That's brilliant. Show me how to do glove anesthesia. Oh, we've been told that our insurance doesn't cover that. Why don't you just go away? And that's the point is that being a hypnotist is nothing to do with badges certification or any of that. Do you know what it is? Confidence. I breed confidence in people and come just St.

3 (33m 2s):
Going onto that Lord, you said, then there is 180 videos, free, free videos on my YouTube channel, UK hypnosis Academy, just type it in and you'll find it, go find any of those. And any of those are about instilling confidence in the student, not shit certificates because certificates of great, they're brilliant and put them on the wall, right? I've been taught around the world. I've spent tens of thousands of pounds on myself, and I've only got one hypnosis. Anyone who knows me knows this. Who've been to my office. I've only got one hypnosis certificate on my wall. And that's the one that says you're not allowed to practice. And somebody gave him a certificate saying you're not allowed to practice because I carried out a rapid induction on a, on a 10 month course.

3 (33m 50s):
And they said that you, we, we can't underwrite you because you do these rapid inductions. And that is the only one. And if anyone wants a picture of that, I'll send it to you. I would say that is the only anyone who knows me, who has been to my office where I've seen that. That is the only certificate in hypnosis. I've got the other one was EMDR. That's just stayed on the wool. And the other one is my fire walking instructors to get them on where I would do. Firewalking glasswork and all that. They're there. The three, any three certificates. I've got my wall. Nobody ever looks at my certificates. Nobody's ever asked me for insurance. Never. They need PE people read that certificate and they still don't bloody understand. They go, Oh, do you know why? Because it's about confidence. And that's a key thing that I want to get across to some of the younger members that are listening.

3 (34m 33s):
This is that start recording your sessions with the permission of other people, because it breeds confidence in yourself. And it also breeds confidence in those people searching for you. I'll tell you now I've now got a two week backlog of clients. Why? Because of YouTube, because I like to breed the confidence in people. I like it. And it's not, I'm not being arrogant anyway. And anyone ever watches me. They know what I'm like. I don't care. I go in and blow the doors off straight away. I've got no qualms in doing that. The point being is, is that confidence is key in a hypnotist, not certification. That's the key thing. The only thing I'm going to say, fail, fail, fail, fail, fail. I'm like Edison's light bulb.

3 (35m 13s):
I've screwed up more times than anybody and come out at the back. End of it. That's the key thing. I've made mistakes. All of my career, especially in those first years where you're like, Oh shit, I've just said it and not, and Oh my God, don't worry about it. The client doesn't give a shit. They don't care. They don't care

2 (35m 32s):
To me. The whole, this makes my whole podcast worth. Every episode that I recorded, I, this is what I want people to hear. So rewind back and listen to what Carl just said and know that he is talking to you. And if you have received a good training, I mean, I think even if a person has read Preddy Jacquelyn's book, you have everything that you need to get started. If you've engaged in Carl's training, you don't need one more certification. You don't need one more training. You're ready.

3 (35m 58s):
Juno is really key about being a good hypnotist conference, but the confidence has spurned by being yourself, the amount of people I get. I listened to that. Go call your recording your clients. And in England and England, we've got no accreditation or no governing bodies. They're mainly made up just to make, take the money off of kids and young people, right? There's none. That's my boot in the door, anybody assholes anyway, but the thing is is that there is no accreditation, but when what happens is, is they put these boxes around people. You can't record a client because it's a client confidential. Well, I'll ask the bloody client. Can I record this session and put it up on my YouTube channel so I can use it? That's all I do.

3 (36m 39s):
And the key thing is, is about you. I cannot express this enough if you've ever watched me work and I've been really good on this, right? Because I haven't sworn, I'm trying to be good. I'm trying to get boy. But the thing is, is that I'm telling you, knowing I will shock the crap out of most of you. If you saw some of my sessions, because I do come out in the blocks and I'm very, very quick and very effective in the way I do things. I know that, but on the same token on me and I do it with passion, I do it because it's my personality. Once you realize confidence, personality, and passion, you become your own. I'm going to do it. Fuck your training off. Fuck it off at the high port.

3 (37m 19s):
Get rid of it. Right? Do what they've told you, re embrace other trainers that are out there. The Jacquelyn's the Mike, Mandel's the who else we got there's there's people all over the world. I just can't even think about it. The King

2 (37m 34s):
Tears, tears,

3 (37m 36s):
Especially for young ladies out there, you, you know, it is Simpson and Stephanie Konkol, she's doing really well at the moment for female hypnotists and stuff like that. People go out there and learn off a David Schneider. My God, we missed the big one off the block. But David Schneider, David is him. I'm me. My mom does him. <inaudible> watches me work. Sometimes. I'm like that. He's like that.

2 (38m 5s):

3 (38m 5s):
Know, but the thing is, is that it's because I, I'm not, it's not about just prestige and showmanship. It's me. It's my personality. And I bring my personality into it. I'm not confined into a little box. And like I said, I don't even do consultations. I used schizophrenia or bipolar, or you want any big drugs? Not good. Sit down, shut up. Has gotten there.

2 (38m 25s):
That reminds me of my sec. Oh, go ahead. That's exactly what my session is. So my second question a moment ago was for a person who watches you and sees effective, you are and looks at the way you work because I've done this. I've tried to channel Carl Smith in my sessions and I'm crap at it. I'm more of the, the unicorn, the unicorn hugger. But I found that I can take the principles that you use, the kin, the kinesthetic shifts and the things that you do and do them as Lori Hammond and equally effective. So if you would speak to that, and then the second thing is when you say be yourself, I feel like sometimes people think, well, I'm timid shy. Like for me, I'm an introvert.

2 (39m 6s):
And I was always a wallflower in school, but I found that I can harness confidence by changing my state. And by stepping into the version of Lori Hammond, that's most appropriate for that session. So can you speak to those things?

3 (39m 18s):
So, so, so the thing is, is that even though I've just told you about the way that I operate, you have to step into you. You know, and this is what I call them. Drones. People are being punched out of these colleges at the moment because they've hit that criteria, this curriculum, that curriculum. And they've done that. And yes, you've ticked a box, but you've not been taught hypnosis and you have to come out of it and express yourself. However you do it now for those people that are sitting there going, Oh my God, he's like a kid. He's like a car crash. It's because that's my client base. They do not want Lori Hammons approach, right? They don't want your approach. They want Carl Smith let's blow the doors off. So whatever your, where it comes from your heart. And this is where the passion comes from is what drives that.

3 (40m 1s):
That's what you've got to look at. That's where the driver is. That's where your passion will develop. And your confidence will increase when you become the hypnotist. You want to be not the drum that somebody sent out because they will give a shift. I will tell you now, some of your training colleges may tell you that you've done 9,000 hours and you complete 50,000 scripts, but they don't give a shit. Well, the average straight after, after that course, they don't, they really don't give a shit. And you've got to be careful of that. That because you might have put the percentage of people that pass courses. So the percentage of people that go on to continue in the profession is lower than, than lower, than low. So you have to step into yourself. You have to be, you, you have to, you just have to be congruent with the way that you want to work, not the way that somebody else wants you to work.

3 (40m 49s):
I'm mainly showing you that the other end of the spectrum, I mean, mine's completely different to me mate, but me and Mike are best mates. We sit around data and all that type of stuff. And you know, David Schneider and he's different to me and Melissa tears is completely different. She swears more than Maine, by the way, you have never met. She's absolutely disgusting the way she talks. It's gusting. Just absolutely. I love you really, Melissa. Fuck. But the thing is, is that is, is that you have to be congruent with the way you want to be. Not, not what somebody else. And if you want to, like, if you, if you want to do a hypnosis induction at Reiki, spiritual ism and graphology into it bloody well, do it.

2 (41m 28s):
And do you have all these videos up on your YouTube channel, showing Carlsmith flavor of hypnosis and building rapport. So the people who contact, you know, what they're in for, they already know like, and trust you. Whereas I'm the same. I have a lot of video. And so when people come to me, they know how I'm going to present myself, how I'm going to connect. Can you talk a little bit about getting over the fear of putting yourself on video and why video is so effective, very easily. Get over yourself.

3 (41m 59s):
W you know, at the end of the day, it's about just sticking a camera up and really screwing it up the first time nobody needs to worry about Hollywood. Don't worry about Hollywood, right? I've got a complete film studio. Chris Thompson has got one. I know David Schneider has got one. I think Ken's got one. Jason Lynette. Sorry. I missed Jason's name off of, but, but, but Jason, we've all got record studios. We've all developed our ways around it, but you can, you can do just as much with an iPhone 10 or an iPhone, 11 stick on a tripod and talk to it. W w we'll say to people is that people buy people, people buy people. So if you talk to a camera and get used to talking to the camera as though it's your best friend, then guess what your personality will come over.

3 (42m 42s):
So when you watch my video, I spend a lot of time for those people that watching some video, talking directly to the camera, which makes it more personable. That's the thing. People buy people. And once we've got that, people walk in my door and for those people, who've never seen me do my lessons before. It's all in the pre-talk has gotten the hypnosis induction is the last thing in the hypnosis procession. The hypnosis pre-talk is so fundamentally important. The pre-talk is the big thing where all happens, getting that compliance. And like I mentioned earlier, left hemisphere, right? Hemisphere fight flight freeze, the, the tequila moment, all of those things, they're building the pre-talk. So what I get is I get that. Yes. That's foundation going, and it goes from there, right?

2 (43m 25s):
Will you talk to me a little bit more about confidence? Because I think so often people mistake arrogance for confidence, and I feel like those they're almost completely opposite where arrogance is almost trying to mask an insecurity and maybe about how a person can develop their confidence, that they feel like they're lacking

3 (43m 43s):
Confidence. Confidence comes from failing. I'll tell you that no confidence comes from screwing up consistently screwing up and, and making a right pig's ear of it, because that's where you learn. That's why I'm so animated about scripts. Because when, when people I'll just hold my iPad, when people are, what if you're my client and people are holding this script, they do this. And as you go down the windy road and just allow, and just allow that to happen, that the conference is damaged. That's where the confidence is damaged. Because what happens is, is that you're not calibrating with the client. You're not doing what the client, you, you you're actually watching what the client does.

3 (44m 28s):
So that's where confidence is bred by watching the, and calibrate with the client, watching the client, and then making split second decisions on whatever technique you want to use this week. And like, Melissa always says, this shit is all made up. So that's the key thing there is that we've got to, you've got to, you've got to, you've got to start building your confidence up with your client, not sheet of paper. That's where it comes from.

2 (44m 56s):
Is there anything bit that you have burning that you want to convey that we haven't discussed yet, or anything that you would tell that person who thinks they need one more piece of office furniture, or one more piece of lighting equipment before they start making video or the right hypnosis chair before we move forward. I also want to ask you, you had mentioned testing for a person who works over zoom. Can you give us some, some ideas about testing over zoom?

3 (45m 25s):
Well, this is where it comes because I all my work, my testing work is done by visual representation. I don't do any hand drops, hand steaks, anything like that. I know when I have hypnosis, why? Because I watch human beings and, and I watch what people are up to. And I, and, and that's where it comes from being just intuitive. Why come from the gut? If there's anything that I would say to anyone working today is start using your primal instinct of working from the gut. That's when it will come. That's when this magic, they shit starts piecing itself together. When you start watching somebody, when you start looking at them and they like, they're moving, they're twitching and you'll go, that's it.

3 (46m 5s):
Let it go. That's it. Or as Mike says, that's right. Or you just do whatever you need to do. Just to just acknowledge that they're doing something is when the confidence comes, when you work from your gut, your primal instinct, that's when it happens, not hidden behind an 84 sheet of paper. And if you aren't working with eight, four sheets of paper, my advice is, is get them, take them to the, or backyard and incinerate them as hard as you can with as much aviation fuel as you really, really can.

2 (46m 37s):
Do you have any tips for someone on how to develop that gut instinct? I would imagine as a police officer and being in the military, that you really honed that instinct of watching people and learning cause and effect. And for me as an introvert, I picked up on that kind of instinctive. I don't really know why I'm picking up on it, but I've, I've learned to trust that as well. If a person is listening and thinking, Oh, I don't know how to listen to my gut. What would you say to that person?

3 (47m 4s):
You're talking too much. Not you them, you're talking too much. Now in this, you find that a little bit odd because Carl's done nothing but rabbit for the past 40 odd minutes, but that's my passion coming through in a session, very quiet and very allowed them to do it. And by listening to your own subconscious unconscious monkey brain, that's when it, if you're sitting there talking, talking, talking, talking, talking, talking, talking, you're, you're a robot. You're not a hypnotist or hypnotherapist. You've got to learn to shut up in a session. Calibrate, listen to your gut. When you stop talking in a session is when that happens.

2 (47m 46s):
You mentioned affirmations earlier. And I really try to get people to tune into their self-talk for me as a therapist, if I find myself thinking, I don't know what I'm going to do next, I can't help this person. I watch myself talk and start saying, I, I can do this. I can notice this. And so I think when that, when the therapist is being quiet and listening, there's self-talk underneath can be, I can hear my gut. I can notice their signal. I can pick up on it. I know what to do next.

3 (48m 14s):
Yeah. And what you've got to listen to is it's like, it's like, it's like being a composer of a band is like being a composer. It's like, I'm Roger Waters of pink Floyd. Roger Waters is Roger. What is that? Pink Floyd left? And one of the one things that I did listen to Dave Gilmore talk about one day, the leads lead guitars forum is that he may well have not been a, a great muse, a really great musician. But the thing about Roger Waters about pink Floyd was he knew when that was what you need to be as a hypnotist, you've got to be the composer. You've got to be the person that goes, no, that's what you've got to learn.

3 (48m 57s):
That's what happens when you shut up in a session.

2 (48m 59s):
And the only way you're going to learn that is by starting to get out there and actually work with you and trust yourself,

3 (49m 8s):
Free presentations, free presentations, and failing. All I ever did was when I was working with charities was I was literally working for charities and, and working with people, doing the best I could for them. You know, when I first started, people said, Oh, don't wait for charities. Cause you'd never get paid for it. Best place to go learn, go, go work with these people because they'll be happy with whatever they received. You get to learn people. Do you know what I mean? You get to learn that. And I had the privilege of working with charities and, and learning to work with people and coming away from that diabolical 10 months, shit that I'd been taught, you know, to be able to express myself, to be me, to learn the hypnotist. I wanted to be not what box I've been shot into.

3 (49m 50s):
And that's what you've got to do. You've got to be able to break that mold, get out there and be you. And that's an, it comes back to that. Be your own personality, have passion. And the confidence will breed from that.

2 (50m 3s):
Will you unpack the mindset and the self-talk and the under underlying beliefs that enabled you to get out there and start doing presentations, even though you weren't probably weren't sure it was going to work and you knew he would mess up what kind of mindset equipped you to do that? Just so the people listening can model those same mindsets for themselves.

3 (50m 26s):
I always wanted to be the best hypnotist. I always wanted to be when, when, when, when I had my accident and it unleashed this new year, everybody that's now a hypnotist or hypnotherapist. You've had something or have something on in your life at the moment that hypnosis changed your life. Mine was a little bit more dramatic than most, but you still have that. And that's where your niches or niche as you guys over there, niche in England niche over there, right? That's where your niche or your niche comes from because that's where the passion lies. So people sit and go, they go, I'm going to go do the weight. Next weight loss. I'm going to go do the next pain course.

3 (51m 6s):
I'm going to go do this course. I'm going to do that. Of course, I'm going to do this course. They're not following their passion. They're following the pound coins. They're following the dollar signs. They're not following, you know, reality. And, and that's that's if there's one thing I'm going to say to people now be honest with yourself. If it was depression, anxiety, stress, or strain, post-trauma, that's where your passion align, because that's where you're like, that's where you're at. That. If you go back to the core fundamentals and take away the pound coins, where you take away the dollar signs, you take away, whatever it is, wherever country you are, once you take that one, strip it back to where you came into this profession. That's where it all starts to come. I do nothing, but post-trauma, I occasionally get a weight loss thing come in, but I'll be brutally honest.

3 (51m 49s):
It bores the shit out of me. I can't be bothered with it. I'm fairly good at a good gastric band. But it balls that have been shared with me, get me a complex, complex, complex, complex, really complex. See PTSD. D C H D D D B D D, whatever it is this week. And I thrive on that stuff because that's where I came in. That's me.

2 (52m 11s):
My dog's ear is picking up in the camera.

3 (52m 14s):
There's people listening. This has been a dog ceremony, my dog, I've got a Hungarian visitor. And he's next to me at the moment. And obviously people could have heard him in the background. He's a lovely little fellow and anyone who goes on my Facebook wall, you'll see Stanley there. But he's, he's, you know, the, the hand in the, the hand that the Fox in the hand, that, that one there that's it. That's what he is. So, but no pets are welcome. They're all welcome. You know, people come down this path for many wrong reasons, you know? And that's why I'm so passionate about this. I'm so, so passionate about it because it's saved my life. It really did. It saved me from drugs and booms. And, and that's the key thing about this is that I come from a place of passion. People. Some people call it arrogance.

3 (52m 55s):
It's not ego. Sorry. It's not ego. Ego. Ego is a previous life. This is just love. I love this shit. I love it all day long. I'm always learning and trying to find out what we're up to. Always networking, always doing stuff. And every day I eat, breathe shit. This stuff. That's all I do.

2 (53m 11s):
Yeah. Amazing. Do you have a few more minutes for me to hop down one more rabbit trail? You mentioned that it has saved you from booze and drugs. I'm not sure. Did you say drugs? Yeah. Will you elaborate a little bit on people who maybe want approach addiction with hypnosis?

3 (53m 28s):
Well, you've always got a basic come back down to two basic things. When people enter your room. There's only when, when I said I don't do consultations, there's only two things that I look for and I'm going to be working with self-esteem and confidence. Why did, why did they enter that rabbit hole? Why did they start this? Why did they, why did they start smoking? Why did they start the cannabis? Why did they start the cocaine self-esteem and confidence. They wanted to be part of a human pack. They want to be part of a tribe. That's human instinct. Same as a dogs. Right? Same as our dogs. They want to be on this show tonight because they want to be with us. They want to be next to us. It's a tribal thing. So addictions are the same thing. Alcohol is, well, it's another same thing because people don't just are not born alcohol.

3 (54m 12s):
Well, no, sorry. I shouldn't say that. Like really people are not born alcoholics, are they? Unless they've, unless there have been circumstances prior to, in, in the pregnancy and stuff like that, or drug usage by the mother and all that type of stuff, right. That happens. Right. But I'd say, let's go for it. Just go for 90%, 90% visible, barely healthy, or that type of stuff. No alcohol, a little bit of booze way dads out too much. And all that lot of moms are, but on the same token, we've got that, right. That's fine. We learn, we learn that process as we get older, because we want to be part of a tribe. When we're 13, 14 taking a bottle of mad dog, 20, 20, or a bottle of chins Arno, or a bottle of Jack Daniels, wherever you are in the world and gulping it down in front of our friends, because we want to get past or nipping behind the bike sheds and having a quick smoke.

3 (54m 58s):
There are things to be part of a clan. This is the same as other addictions. Same as cocaine when they're working in the office. You know, and I work in Docklands. I work in London, quite a lot, working with people with cocaine, addictions, because they want the extra edge. They want that extra edge. And how do they do it? Well, they want to be with a big team that want to be, they're always on the money. They're always looking for the money. And that's the key thing there. It's about looking at what, with anything, anything that you do with not just addictions self-esteem and confidence. As soon as they walk in a door, low self-esteem, low confidence. You've bagged that session already. Same as addictions. And then the process, how you get that person out of that is entirely your strategy is entirely your strategy.

2 (55m 41s):
So building up that confidence and that self-esteem is going to replace what they've been getting out of the alcohol and wipe out that so-called addiction

3 (55m 49s):
And given them purpose, what would you say? Self-esteem confidence. Purpose. Give them a purpose. Give them the one. Like this week, I had a close friend of mine whose mum died of sepsis due to alcohol. She'd been drinking and drinking and drinking husband worked on the oil rigs say, didn't see him for a long time. She just drunk the profits away and all that law, because she was bored. She was bored. That was what happened with this person. She was just technically born. That's what happened. She drank herself to death, but boredom when she could have actually chosen another path. When she th this person who died, she could have chosen another path. She could've chose. Well, I'm just going to make the most of it. If he's away, he was going to make the most of it.

3 (56m 30s):
However, that learned behaviors then been passed on to her daughter. You see, and this week I actually went in full blown, full lever on somebody and give them a damn good flash and verbally with what you need to do is you need to go write your children a goodbye letter. Now we're saying that you chose a vodka over them. How is that? And she just sat there and broke down. So, no, no, no, no, no. Let's write the letter now. Let's do that letter now. Dear James, I'm really sorry that I chose vodka over you. And I, and I know you probably want to tell me some final words when I'm dying on my death bed. I won't be able to hear you, but just to let you know that I'll do the best I can.

3 (57m 10s):
And we did that similar thing now, and all my God Pash. Some of you would probably sit there going, Whoa, sweet child. But that's what happened with her and her mother. She could not tell her mother those last few moments that she loved us. Does she want it to, because she chose the alcohol. I've read children. When the sepsis kicked in bang, she was out into a coma and she, they, children can do anything and they are children my age. But on the same token, when I'm working with addictions, I give people purpose. And I gave her a bank this week, the purpose of our children to live for her children. And this as simple as that live for those loved ones. I mean, as a parent, I want to be gone before my children go.

3 (57m 50s):
As any parent knows. I want to fall off my perch before they do.

2 (58m 2s):
I know people listening are going to want to know more about how to train with you. And if someone has gone on your YouTube channel and looked at those videos and listen to this, and may they know that you are going to give them that piece, that they need, that they may be missed in their 10 month training or their 9 million hours of training. What's the best way to move forward in that regard?

3 (58m 25s):
The easiest way for people to do is go to my YouTube channel, which is U K hypnosis Academy. So just go to the UK hypnosis Academy and you'll find me there. Or you can just go to my website. And what you can do then is just go to just go to the website. There's tons of material on there as well that you can go learn with just stuff like that. So UK hypnosis Academy, you can find me there and I can guarantee there's no, Oh, anyone who watches my last video, you'll see standing there. And he's asleep unlike now where he's wagging his tail. But the thing is, is that, is that is, that, is that we've, we've, we've, we've my channel and stuff like that. I'd love to give people those little, those little golden nuggets ready, where they can, they can go out and really make a change.

3 (59m 8s):
And I really, really hope that, you know, by watching that channel, it gives you, give you that. There's like I said, to 180 videos of me working on this. So hopefully you will find some golden nuggets in there anyway,

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And don't just watch, take action. Start that stuff

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In yourself. And when you fail, tell yourself I did it and now I know what doesn't work and I'll do better next time. Yeah, that's it. That's it. You've just got to keep going. You've got to get going, keep going at it, perseverance all the way through perseverance. So all you got to do, just keep persevering and then you'll get a couple of lucky strikes and then you'll think that's it. Then you'll take a knock. There's no two ways about it. Even me. I sit there sometimes and take a knock. That's fine. That's why I have to do just about not taking it personally. It's not my problem. It's theirs. I've done the best I can for that person. Tough shit. They can't be bothered to do what I need them to do.

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